Submitted by "GoBacktotheChans" on 10/05/2008

poor trolls are poor

0/10

Submitted by "nu@regency" on 10/05/2008

ouatahere thanks for your first posting. I see what you mean by selling infested furniture. I lived at 1255 Pendrell that is a complete gong show with bedbugs, mexican refugees and esl students and took Regency becaue of nice looking pool, easy bus route and bit closer walk to Stanley park. Had to leave 1255 because of noise but suspected my bed couch was also infested. I did same as you, moved in, posted for sale notice of couch (infested but we will keep quiet about that for now) on bus stop up from MacD. Easily sold my infested couch to ESL student who seemed to be some front for renting one bedroom units and subing out to other students. She liked the couch because it folds out to double bed that she rents to two people @ $425.00 per head, making three or four to a one bedroom unit. FYI she set up the subbing @ 1095 Bute ? (the highrise right next to the bulding I moved from. So far no complaints about Regency.

Submitted by "nu@regency" on 10/05/2008

ouatahere thanks for your first posting. I see what you mean by selling infested furniture. I lived at 1255 Pendrell that is a complete gong show with bedbugs, mexican refugees and esl students and took Regency becaue of nice looking pool, easy bus route and bit closer walk to Stanley park. Had to leave 1255 because of noise but suspected my bed couch was also infested. I did same as you, moved in, posted for sale notice of couch (infested but we will keep quiet about that for now) on bus stop up from MacD. Easily sold my infested couch to ESL student who seemed to be some front for renting one bedroom units and subing out to other students. She liked the couch because it folds out to double bed that she rents to two people @ $425.00 per head, making three or four to a one bedroom unit. FYI she set up the subbing @ 1095 Bute ? (the highrise right next to the bulding I moved from. So far no complaints about Regency.

Submitted by "Anonymous" on 09/23/2008

here's an interesting news report:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/sep/22/health.transport

Submitted by "Management" on 09/23/2008

Management is taking all steps nessasary to rectify this problem along with PCO, and along with the residents co-operation we will be able to keep this problem under control.

Submitted by "puzzled" on 09/20/2008

"Not Again!" - if you want to be sure, the only thing you can do is move. I doubt it will be possible to kill all the bugs throughout the building. There'll always be a few here and there and it doesn't take long for them to spread from one unit to another.

Submitted by "puzzled" on 09/20/2008

"An ESL student at Regency gought my couch and bed that were both infested" -- so let me get this straight. You're saying you sold your infested couch and bed??

Submitted by "Not Again!" on 09/17/2008

9th floor.

1st sprayed on July 18th.
Last (2nd) sprayed on July 31st.

Last sighting on Aug 2nd.
Last bitten before July 18th.

"Surveyed" people in the building as often as I can.
Heard nothing.

Still vacuuming daily.
Everything still in bags.

Just got out of the shower and saw a LIVE one, "1/2 full" on the bathroom floor.

What should I do now???

Submitted by "outahere" on 09/16/2008

I reported in August of my moving to Surrey from this building. I held a garage sale by posting sale notices on laundry room and TD Canada Trust bank mahcine outside. An ESL student at Regency gought my couch and bed that were both infested. she is living in a one bedroom but tells me she can make good money setting up the bed and renting her one bedrooom to 2 other ESL students living in the living room while she lives rent free in the bedroom.

My buddies helped move the balance of my belongings to new digs out here in Surrey. Bit of advise when asking friends to help. We set up the barbeque, had a couple burgers and few beer, then my friends left without helping unload the van. Don't open up the beer until your heklp has unloaded the truck! Lot's of kids around here at the complex but 3 zone bupass takes me downtown in less than one hour and rent is cheap. Unfortunately I have to take the skytrain because I left my car parked on 152nd St, didn't check it for weekend and when I went to use it to drive to downtown on Monday it was up on cement blocks and some meathead had stolen my mags.
More advice. Rent is cheap in Surrey but after leaving the West end for three weeks I am beginning to think that some on the people that live here are from another planet.
So far no bedbugs, but I didn't gie the Esl student that bought my stuff my new phone #.

Submitted by "bedbugged" on 09/11/2008

Almost 100 posts on this page about bed bugs in different units/floors of our building. I think anyone looking to rent an apartment will accept this as a solid proof. Until the problem has been __completely eliminated__ any reassurances by the landlord are worthless.

Submitted by "REGENCY PARK" on 09/08/2008

Thankfully with the co-operation of conscientious tenants, only random activity has been found and is being attacked aggressively by Pest Control Contractor. A resident MUST provide proof - not assumption, that activity is present. With this, this problem will be eliminated. -Property Manager

Submitted by "Miles Procter" on 09/06/2008

They're called bites. And they didn't just show up from nowhere :) If you've had to deal with these bugs like all of your tenants then you would know that these bites are easily distinguishable from other kinds.

Submitted by "property manager" on 09/05/2008

Regency Park Apartments has been aggressively attacking this problem = the problem that has been brought into this building by a resident at some point in time. We are using the methods that the Pest Control company enforces. It is imperative that we have the cooperation of our residents in order to bring this under control. Excessive monies have been spent as we continue to attack the units affected as they are reported. FYI - #201 did not provide any evidence beyond July 31st, 2008 - only rumor. - Property Manager

Submitted by "Miles Procter" on 08/30/2008

I was in suite 201 on the 2nd floor.

Submitted by "Stillnotonmyfloor" on 08/29/2008

For the 10,000 F'ing time, could you PLEASE tell us what floor you lived on, or if you don't live here anymore, could you maybe tell us what apt??????? The rest of your information is USELESS without that.

Submitted by "Miles Procter" on 08/29/2008

On July 15th, I woke up with a bunch of bites all over my body, out of nowhere. It looked like I had chicken pox. I told the building manager and packed up to move over to my friends house. I had to live on a couch until the 31st. Meanwhile, I had to wash every bit of fabric in my place, bag it up and keep out of the suite. I moved back in after my apartment been treated. I was only back for 10 days before I started getting bit again. Fed up with this, I gave my notice saying I would be leaving at the end of the month, then packed up to move back onto my friends couch.

I have not been living in my suite for 1 full month now out the past 2, and have had no reimbursement whatsoever for rent, not to mention all the laundry I've had to do. And on top of that, they're keeping my damage deposit and charging me for an extra months rent since I didn't give 30 days notice.

Meanwhile, they have no sign outside saying that there is a suite available. This is because they know there is bed bugs here, and they know that nobody would live in here. This is what gets me, because why should I have to?

If you are going to move into this building beware. You might not get them, but if you do, it is the biggest pain, and Maple Leaf Property Management will try to milk you for every cent they can get before you leave.

Submitted by "michael 6F" on 08/26/2008

Here's something you might find helpful.

When we first discovered the bedbugs, we put a couple in a Tupperware bowl to show the superintendents, and we noticed that the plastic was too smooth for them to climb up. And that gave us an idea.

If you read people's bedbug stories you'll hear a lot about the necessity of bagging your clothes to keep the pests away. But if you want to avoid the awful inconvenience of living out of bags during the many months it will take to rid yourself of these monsters, you might consider buying something called a "file box" by KIS (www.kis.it).

We were thinking of picking up a sealed cooler or some of those camping barrels you can get at the Mountain Co-op. But these file boxes are cheap, light and stackable. My wife found them at Canadian Tire. Even though they don't seal shut, they are so smooth the bugs can't climb in.

We figure the plastic we wrapped around our mattress will have the same effect, so we don't use a fitted sheet anymore, just a pad that doesn't quite reach the edge of the bed. In fact, we use the fitted sheet as a top sheet now, so there isn't any worry that a corner might hang over the mattress and give the bugs a ramp. Of course, the bed is surrounded by DE.

Personally, I wouldn't recommend relying lights or clothing to defend against these creatures.

You'd have to seal yourself into a cocoon for fabric to have much effect. Otherwise, they'll just end up finding a way INTO your clothes. And I think that would be worse.

And while it might be true that light will keep them at bay, they'll just wait you out. They can go without eating for a year or more.

The beauty about DE is you can just pile it up along every wall, under every piece of furniture, and over just about every other surface. It's hardly elegant, but it's no health hazard.

You don't want the bugs hiding in your baseboards. You want them to come out, especially at night when you are safe atop your well-protected mattress. They'll have nowhere to go but through the DE. That's been our strategy, and it seems to be paying off.

Submitted by "working together" on 08/25/2008

Thank you to nobody to blame, from all the articles that I have read bed bugs only go to the exposed areas of the skin only, nothing was said about bed bugs penetrating clothing, everything that was mentioned only talked about exposed skin only. I for one am going to wear socks to bed with pagamas tucked in to my socks. I might even buy a cover to go over my eyes and sleep with the lights on that way those little guys are not going to come out at all.I will be doing some more further investigating and will post what ever information I can find for every one.

Submitted by "nobodytoblame" on 08/25/2008

Working together your report is perfect. I laid out our experience in previous post (see nobodytoblame). I think this building problems are compounded by lack of education on bedbugs (your research is great), fingerpointing directed to other parties, tenants lack of interest in follow up vacuuming and proper prep ((see Michael 8/18, hereto help 8/18, been there 8/11, doyoucleanurplace 8/01 etc. and nobody documenting follow up vacuuming schedules. Our biggest problem was getting tenants to follow up vacuuming. We had to get very firm with one (he moved on instead of cooperating). The harostreetisok landlord did the right thing by kicking out the people that brought in stuff from yard sales and the alley. Although a bit harsh if the tenant refuses to cooperate they have to go. Perhaps one day we will see a posting that Mr. Optimistic and Michael6F have distributed your posting to all the building residents and somebody is knocking on the doors to make sure the vacuuming is done. Another important point you touch on is that with transient population the bedbugs are around. Therefore even if there are no bedbugs in your unit take preventative measures including putting down dearth and VACUUM YOUR UNIT IN ITS ENTIRITY DAILY.
Question from your research: Do you know if bedbugs can penetrate through long sleeve shirts? Just thinking if somebody sleeps in a sweat shirt temporaily does this help stop bites?

Submitted by "working together" on 08/25/2008

Okay, i just spent 2 hours going through a ton of bed bug sites. If you can sleep with your lights on they will not come out, they are night feeders, even if your lights are dim during the day they think that it is dark and they will make there move if they are hungry, but if it is bright they will stay were they are. also put plastic covers on your pillows and double sided tape such as carpet tape everywhere you might expect activity. By the way I could not find one comment on anyone blaming management and that includes, hotels, motels,and apartments, cruise ships ect. Bed bugs are hitch hikers, they just keep traveling around in suitcases and on people, these little guys get to travel the world for free and then get to destroy everyones lives. So from what I have read we all have to educate ourselves the best we can and be pro active, again management can only do so much.

Submitted by "working together" on 08/25/2008

Good news for everyone I did my homework and I found out the best place to buy DE and bed covers.I phoned around for the bed covers and believe it or not but sleep country wanted 189.00 dollars for a cover, pesticide stores all wanted between 55.00 and 90.00 dollars. Wallmart, sears and zellers have nothing. the only place that had the exact cover , vinyl with a zipper is linen n things for 18.99 and in all sizes, it looks like some places are deliberatly marking the prices up and cashing in on our expense.The best place for DE was home depot for 6.97 for a 200 gram bottle which is a good size. everyone else wanted 15 to 20 bucks a bottle. I did speak with many pesticide stores about the bed bug problem and this is what I was told by pretty much everyone. This problem being blamed on management is wrong, management can only do so much the rest is up to us the tenants, bed bugs are travelers and do come from a lot of over sea countries and we do have a lot of ESL students here in Vancouver. A lot of people are not pro active, so to eliminate the bed bugs from every suite is very difficult. Also keep the furniture from the alleys and 2nd hand stores out of the building. If any suite has bed bugs you got to spray, above,below and beside to keep them from moving around.Use the DE along base boards and keep your bed off the ground with maybe some kind of plastic container or put the legs of your bed in to small plastic containers with some DE around the container, and vacume atleast 2 times a day.From what I have learned, talk to to experts if you want some really good advice because this problem is manageable if all affected suites stay on top of it.Good luck every one.One more thing if you have a fan in your bedroom keep it on while you sleep as it changes the oxygen from our mouth when we breath so it tricks the bed bugs, this advice came from a very good source.

Submitted by "startvacuuming" on 08/25/2008

attn michael6f. Is there any reason that you cannot put down d. earth yourself? Either you are handicapped,lazy or are so dug in that you refuse to cooperate on solving the problem. Just pointing out that the a whole part of the problem is people still would rather complain and do nothing and expect somebody else to solve the problem. Have you vacuumed your unit 3 x per day for last month, washed all your clothes in hot water and put down d earth? Have you phoned the police to come and shut down local garage sales this week? If not, then you are part of the problem whether intentional or not.

Submitted by "timetomove" on 08/24/2008

I have to wonder about some of the postings here. You seem to have a nut for a caretaker, the property manager is not very hands on, seems like you are paying top $ for rent, you have been patient waiting for property manager to work on problem. Meet with management, demand that management treat common areas, in return the tenants will put down D earth and vacuum regularly. Give it a chance for one month. Can't understand why you would still be living there unless you enjoy unpleasantness, are not interested in vacuuming or are some lawyer or politician posting here to make money off other peoples hardship. 85 postings and apparently the problem is not diminishing? Have you ever thought that there is a poisioned relationship between renteres and management at your building that isn't going to be repaired in the near future? You suffered a bad experience renting here. Big deal. It happens every day. No lawyer, politician is going to change that. Cut your losses, abandon shop and move on. Have a pleasant time in your new digs.

Submitted by "checkpne" on 08/24/2008

In PNE home show buidling beside Coliseum there is a display booth from pesticide Co. Half the display is photos, pamphlets etc on bedbugs. Informed, lisenced technicians man the booth. You can purchase bedbug spray, powder, mattress covers etc right there. Good display, obviously a Vancouver problem and they sell on the spot.

Submitted by "hiyo" on 08/24/2008

still infested, floors 2-3-6-10-11-18 are all infested. as confirmed by brenda

Submitted by "confusedneighbour" on 08/23/2008

addition from confused neighbour.
add to my comment that you also seem to have a property manager that is not very hands on and doesn't appear to have a preset game plan to deal with bedbugs

Submitted by "confusedneighbour" on 08/23/2008

not a resident but I'm really confused by some of these postings.
How do you think that bringing in lawyers, attending yard sales and bringing in politicians is going to somehow get rid of bedbugs?
Obviously there is a problem at your bldng. Problem seems to be serously related to self interest, not united preventative effort (vacuuming, stuff dragged into apartment from alley or garage sales, D earth) and resident management that is incompetent or has given up.
Get united and attack the problem (bedbugs) in a cooperate united way rather than pointing the finger at 308, management, Orkin etc.
Bedbugs, lawyers are laughing.
Life is too short. Get on with it.

Submitted by "nobodytoblame" on 08/23/2008

I'm custodian for two 23 unit bldngs on Barclay St and we had bedbugs in both. Here are facts:
Orkin was called in and sprayed affected units and front entrance area. It is a two stage process. Bedbugs do not flee to adjoining unit (as some people claim). Bedbugs are attracted by human smell and seek blood for food. Orkin guy advises that he can spray all he wants but if tenant does not vacuum 3 x per day for two weeks process is ineffective and he has to start all over. We made it mandatory for sprayed units to provide their written schedule of vacuuming. Some tenants cooperated, otheres complained and did nothing with sily excuses such as "I don't own a vacuum." One tenant after complaining and blaming management admitted to Orkin that he had bought his mattress and computer chair at local garage sales (both infected). This guy didn't vacuum after treatment, evidently his life was so busy that he didn't have time or consideration for other tenants. We had to quarantine his unit from hallway and adjoining units until he got the message and moved on.
I go by your building and notice that it is a good looking building but from outside has a lot of issues, shopping cart people, cat scratch pads in windows, couple of flags for window coverings, etc. Your management is probably not being too selective in who they let into bldng. Bringing in lawyers won't solve the bedbug problem. Comment that lawyers are bloodsuckers and should vacuum instead of billing hours is right on. Politicians are on the same scale of bloodsucking as lawyers. Orkin is a lisenced and knowledgable firm, somewhat hampered in laws that severely restrict the pesticides they are allowed to use (no more chemicals that would kill bedbugs in one spray but lead to cancer and deformed offspring). Pay attention to posted comments on a bit of self preventative. Vacuum your unit, avoid garage sales, put down the D earth ($15.00 instead of lawyers and politicians).
Seems like your building is so poisioned with everybody blaming others that there is no cooperation or trust between management that apparently is bringing is Orkin, and some tenants that think management must come in and vacuum their unit. We had problems getting people to cooperate and the sheer size of your bldng creates a challenge. If every resident of your bldng put down d earth and vacuumed 3 x per day for two weeks, management sprayed common areas, the problem would probably be gone.
The winners are the bedbugs, lawyers, people holding yard sales and politicians that all thrive off other people suffering. Try to unite your building to cooperate and focus on preventative measures. I doubt if management is happy with the bedbugs and seems to not be communicating about follow up vacuuming and avoiding garage sales. Otherwise the posting on aplying for a unit with a mandatory form letter of bedbug control for where you live is a great idea to help control the problem. I would feel a lot more comfortable, knowing that management is being extremely careful to ensure incoming residents have a clearance that not perfect would at least help. If you think your building is bad take a look at the gong show at 1222 Pendrell and 1225 Pendrell.
Hope you can all get it together for constructive attact on the bedbugs.

Submitted by "Mr Optimistic" on 08/23/2008

To all the complainers at 1225, maybe you all should move and stop your crying like a bunch of big babies.You all act like this problem is only happening to you, self centered or what. Just suck it up and deal with it. So stop feeling sorry for your selves and lets all fix this problem.So Michael, I would like you to join my side and be more OPTIMISTIC on our fight to eradicate these little buggers. But to the rest of you, remember what I told you please pick your battles, Maple leaf is NOT the enemy no matter how much you all would like them to be. So grow up people and lets all work together. One last thought before I go to starbucks, I do live in the building and most of you see me every morning leaving the building in the elevator when I go to work, I even see you Michael. Sleep tight and dont let the bed bugs bite, no pun intended.

Submitted by "michael 6F" on 08/22/2008

Submitted by "Anonymous" on 08/21/2008: The management should put a layer of D.Earth across the floors and along the walls **under the carpets** in all units. All hidden cracks and crevices should be filled with DE and sealed. It would make sense if they did this each time they cleaned up / renovated newly vacated apartments.

**I totally agree. It's simple and cheap. They should also replace the carpets with hardwood flooring.


Submitted by "asdfs" on 08/21/2008: another suggestion is for everyone to write to your MP.. we need to figure out how to fix this problem..Fry.H@parl.gc.ca

**Exactly. Eventually, there will have to be laws requiring landlords to make proper disclosure.


Submitted by "not4bloodsucking lawyers" on 08/22/2008: Now they want to hire a lawyer. Great. We have bedbugs sucking blood at night time and lawyers sucking blood by daytime! Hire the lawyers to start vacuuming infected suites rather than running up billable hours.

**Agreed. Has anyone gotten anything in writing about the bedbug situation here? Have any laws been broken? Any contracts violated? I'd love to be compensated my damages, but I'd be awfully surprised if we had a winnable case.


Submitted by "Mr Optimistic" on 08/22/2008:Hey Michael how are you doing, just wanted to let you know that I do not wear reading glasses, I have perfect vision not unlike yourself, and if you find the building such a big inconvenience in your wonderful life maybe you should move were you would be much happier and fit in like maybe East Hastings.

**Am I on crazy pills here? Why is this joker still on my case? Mr. Optimistic, if imbecility were grounds for eviction, YOU would be the one living on E. Hastings. Try reading my posts a little more carefully and see if I've said anything you actually disagree with.

Submitted by "annoyed" on 08/22/2008

Hey "outahere".
Don't have a yard sale. Thats bloody unethical. You're going to give your damn bed bugs to other people. Shame on you.
Also, how can we contact Maple Leaf Properties to complain? Who else can we complain to? The management for this building is ridiculous.

Submitted by "asda1" on 08/22/2008

Mr Optimistic,, or should is say regency park management? What are you one of Brenda's psycho laky's? she is retarded and so is her moron husband bruce. these 2 got their ass's fired and for one i'm happy. they do shit all except smoke outside. People knock at the door and she doesnt do shit all!

Submitted by "asds" on 08/22/2008

The only thing we can do is make it known that the entire building is infested by bedbugs. People we need to post everywhere we can. Do not let the management win on this. It's time to take control

Submitted by "FuckManagement" on 08/22/2008

Great to see management posting here making fun of tenant concerns. I think that sums up the whole bedbug matter perfectly. They just don't care. Brenda is a pathological liar who has looked me directly in the eye on DOZENS of occasions and lied to me about my unit being sprayed (it wasn't) and about other concerns I've had since I moved here. I'm glad they are leaving, but the people who will take over for them will be just as bad because they will be under the same marching orders. The CITY needs to step in and do something because every tower in downtown is going to give you the same level of commitment - NONE.

Submitted by "feduprenter" on 08/22/2008

Bedbug problem is the problem is the landlords and all landlords are the same. Make them rebuild the infected units and we can move back in with a guarantee of no bedbugs or we don't have to pay any rent. Landlords make buckets of money off us every month and live in mansions that we paid for and now we are awake at night with bedbugs.
If the landlord has to rebuild the units to get rid of bedbugs then so be it. This is just a cost of business and a risk that landlords take by going into business. Granted landlords do not bring in bedbugs but if landlords rent to people that bring in bedbugs then it is the landlords problem. I wish I had a job where I can live in a mansion and come down to the west end once a month to pick up a huge amount of rent money.
I've never seen any landlord look after their building with scheduled repairs. These people just collect rent, turn off the heat, ignore bedbug problems, raise the rent, raise the laundry fee.

Submitted by "outahere" on 08/22/2008

This is intolerable. There is now a large spot of bedbug eggs on my boxspring. I'm having a yard sale this weekend in the front yard as I found a place in Surrey for way cheaper rent for Sept 1. Lot's of vacancy signs everywhere in Surrey.

Submitted by "not4bloodsucking lawyers" on 08/22/2008

Mr. Optimistic add one funny note. Now they want to hire a lawyer. Great. We have bedbugs sucking blood at night time and lawyers sucking blook by daytime! Hire the lawyers to start vacuuming infected suites rather than running up billable hours.

Submitted by "Mr Optimistic" on 08/22/2008

Hey Michael how are you doing, just wanted to let you know that I do not wear reading glasses, I have perfect vision not unlike yourself, and if you find the building such a big inconvenience in your wonderful life maybe you should move were you would be much happier and fit in like maybe East Hastings. 1225 Cardero is a wonderful building and I am not going to let this little problem control my life, because I am a doer not a watcher or a complainer.We all have to take precautions as well as management doing the spraying of the suites. And as for a tenant wanting to start a arbitration process on the building is the biggest joke that I have heard all week. Knowing what I know No arbitrator in there right mind will find in favour of the tenants, so if you are not prepared to get an expensive lawyer you are just wasting your time as well as everyone elses.You should get your facts straight before you start a war you are not going to win, pick your battles carefully.To the rest of the tenants just be a little patience and we will get this problem taken care of, empty threats is not the way to resolve this, but working all together is.

Submitted by "harostreetisok" on 08/21/2008

I visit friends in a building @ 1100 Haro frequently. They have had bedbugs in the adjoining units and tell me that of the last 3 units being fumigated that two of the units had brought in used furniture from the lane and the other one had brought in stuff purchased at a local yard sale. The manager kicked out all three of the unit residents for lack of common sense.
They had the units sprayed and follow up. Our friends are concerned but seems like their smaller building has encouraged management as a courtesy to long term tenants to be a bit more selective on new renters.

Submitted by "Anonymous" on 08/21/2008

The management should put a layer of D.Earth across the floors and along the walls **under the carpets** in all units. All hidden cracks and crevices should be filled with DE and sealed. It would make sense if they did this each time they cleaned up / renovated newly vacated apartments.

Submitted by "asdfs" on 08/21/2008

another suggestion is for everyone to write to your MP.. we need to figure out how to fix this problem..

Fry.H@parl.gc.ca

Submitted by "thoughts" on 08/21/2008

google \"bedbug report vancouver bc\" and read April 30, 2007 article.
Same problem on Vancouver Eastside. People bring in infested stuff from lanes (and local yard sales). If majority were as informed as \"out and Gone\" the yard sales around here would disappear and if landlords had extra dumps for abandoned junk in alleys and residents vacuumed diligently the City would probably have way fewer frustrated residents. I don\'t blame the landlord and I don\'t blame the residents. This is a Vancouver problem that requires cooperation and effort from everybody but I guess it is easier to blame others and point fingers than vacuum.
Speak to your neighbours if you see them hauling junk in from alleys, speak to your landlord. If 1225 is so bad the responsible people should consider ending their frustration, dispose of everything infected and get out of this building. The owners might even prefer to have a vacant building so that a good fumigation over time and change carpets to hardwood flooring can cure the problem. Read another posting somewhere here that the owner guts infested units back to the wall, rebuilds with proper sealing everywhere. That building sounds like they are addressing the problem but can\'t find the posting.

Submitted by "flippinmad-7flr" on 08/21/2008

Jason - I feel you. I feel totally duped. In terms of legal action and small claims court I am interested. But other then verbal confirmation from Brenda and Bruce that the issue is in the past, what are the chances of us getting compensation for our lost? I don't really know how the legal system works but tts basically our words against their's?

Submitted by "Out and gone" on 08/21/2008

Actually, bedbugs can be picked up from (for example) your elevators, the laundry room, the moving vans, from sitting on a bus in the west end or at a coffee shop, from a borrowed book, from the library, from your doctor's office waiting room, endless. Documents stating that a person is "bedbug free" would be false security simply given the FACT that between point A and B on any move there are any number of variables including the VAN / truck your property was moved in or from any storage where your property has been kept. There is an epidemic in the West End. We moved out. Won't be going back, ever. If we look at the map, it's only getting worse and it will only get worse. This is not something that "goes away". Meanwhile, get busy.

Submitted by "ann" on 08/21/2008

Annonymous that is a great idea. If it is mandatory for prospective tenants filling out a rental application to provide a signed pest inspection letter of their existing residence for previous 12 months it would stabilize the problem from moving from building to building. Why haven\\\'t the health departments and inspection departments of various governments brought in a rule like this?
Oh, answer is that it makes too much sense.
I suspect that all tenants, especially those that have experienced bedbugs and are now bedbug free would have a lot more peace of mind knowing that anybody moving into their building have been prescreened for bedbugs. Not sure how it would work for those that are genuinely fleeing bedbug buildings except that they could agree to move in by \\\"starting over.\\\"
Question: Does anybody know if the D. Earth can stick to walls and still allow for frequent vacuuming? Overwhelming evidence seems to indicate that with vacuuming (before and after treatment) the problem is controlled but it would make sense to vacuum and also leave some sort of DE on baseboards.

Submitted by "Anonymous" on 08/21/2008

Re Michael6F your #1 is a good idea but it must be taken further. Any prospective tenant filling out a rental application must also include a bedbug report for previous 12 months at current residence. This would really isolate the problem from spreading to sanitized buildings.

Submitted by "fox_nataly" on 08/20/2008

Bed bugs on Barclay 1120............

Submitted by "michael 6f" on 08/20/2008

Here are some suggestions that would go a long way in reducing some of the discontent (mine included):

1. Require landlords to provide a written declaration of all bedbug activity in their buildings to prospective tenants. The declaration should go back at least 1 year, include a summary report of all visits to the building by a PCO, and in particular highlight any previous activity in the suites being advertised for rent.

2. Require landlords to keep current notices on the community bulletin board that report all confirmed bedbug activity by floor.

3. Require landlords to arrange (and tenants to submit to) a quarterly pest inspection by a qualified PCO.

I also recommend that people stop using those lame pseudonyms on their posts. Maybe if we start identifying ourselves by first name and floor #, we'll have a better sense of where the problems are and we'll be less paranoid that some shill from management is on here spreading misinformation.

Submitted by "Jason" on 08/20/2008

I also can completely confirm that this building has a serious problem with bedbugs. And i confirmed with prior residents that they knew of the problem before i moved in. I was not notified. After 5 months fighting with the asshole Bruce and his crazy bipolar wife Brenda i finally decided to break my lease and get the hell out of the bed bug ridden building. Cost me over $1800 to replace bedding, furniture etc, Then the freaks had the nerve to come after me for the remaining portion of the lease. If anyone needs help filing any claim at all i will be more than happy to provide any information needed.

Submitted by "michael" on 08/20/2008

Hey 'Mr Optimistic' - what's with the "mainly you, Michael" comment? Is there something in my posts to suggest I haven't been educating myself? I suggest you dust off your reading glasses and try again.

Submitted by "LETSDOIT" on 08/20/2008

Everyone who was lied to by management I suggest we start the arbitration process. Please read the following documentation.

I'm involved in professional legal so I can start the process easily.

Please contact me at ethic@dtmf.org. We can then file for a request for arbitration applications to be joined. Let's fight these bastards!!!


http://www.llbc.leg.bc.ca/public/PubDocs/bcdocs/367266/RTO-121.pdf
http://www.llbc.leg.bc.ca/public/PubDocs/bcdocs/367266/RTO-117.pdf
http://www.llbc.leg.bc.ca/public/PubDocs/bcdocs/367266/RTO-122.pdf
http://www.llbc.leg.bc.ca/public/PubDocs/bcdocs/367266/RTO-121.pdf
http://www.llbc.leg.bc.ca/public/PubDocs/bcdocs/367266/RTO-119.pdf

After arbitration we can then go after in small claims court for any damages.

Submitted by "growupmapleleaf" on 08/20/2008

Mr. Optimistic, sounds like maple leaf management. There will be postings all around the west end by this weekend if building management doesn’t take a serious step to resolve this issue. This is not JOKE. The building will be posted on EVERY single community website, halls, you name it I’ll be posting it.

This building has refused to take ownership and provide a real level of care to the people living inside. You’re making a freaking KILLING on these units and you can’t even provide us with any sort of care? How dare you people. Let's look at some calculation just so people actually know how much your management company is taking from everyone once a month. Average of 10-12 units per floor, 18 floors, average unit rental cost is 1200 dollars = 259,200.00 per month in our rent going to your stupid ass company. And you can’t even provide us with adequate resources?

Nothing is going to change EVERYONE needs to take a stand... post EVERYWHERE you know that this building is infested.. nothing will change until they are woken up to take some action!

Submitted by "Imstaying" on 08/20/2008

bedbugs are not brought in by the owners. If you haven't vacuumed today or if you have bought used clothing, furniture etc from local yard sales you might want to look in the mirror to find out the source of the problem.
I apoligize to those that have informed themselves and are genuinely working with management following Orkin guy instructions for post spraying.
You can buy a very good shop vac from Canadian tire for about $55.00.

Submitted by "ok here" on 08/20/2008

I go along with trying to find solutions rather than pointing fingers.
vacuum, vacuum, vacuum for preventative, buy a mattress cover, don't purchase anything used from garage sales, don't drag back into building stuff from lanes, inform management if you have noticed any bugs. Bedbugs are persistent and require follow up cooperation from tenant after sprayings. Bedbugs don't like vacuum cleaners. Bedbugs like people that complain and bring in used furnithings.
Bedbugs can get into the cleanest persons unit. Thanks to all those that offered solutions.

Submitted by "Mr Optimistic" on 08/20/2008

To all residents at 1225 Cardero, once again please do your home work on these little guys, mainly you Michael, there is a lot of information out there on how to deal with bed bugs. I googled bed bugs and got more information than I know what to do with. If you like Michael I would be more than happy to forward you some information.Any way gotta go heading out to meet spike.

Submitted by "Mr Optimistic" on 08/20/2008

August 19 2008 1225 Cardero st Vancouver.Maple leaf management is doing a fantastic job on taking care of this problem. People are to fast to point the finger in stead of trying to offer solutions. Please do your research and get your facts before you start pointing your finger. remember,we all have to work together.

Submitted by "flippinmad" on 08/19/2008

And if someone comes back and says to be "Well they are just doing their jobs and renting out the suites..." or "what are they supposed to do other than posting it up". I am going to scream. Yes renting out the suite is their job..doing it unethically isn't!

This whole thing has costs of almost a thousand dollars worth of damage in new bedding, new mattress and bed, laundry, cleaning and not to mention emotional and psychological trauma. If they told me the truth to begin with that it has been an ongoing problem and they are trying their best to fight it...and I choose to move it..then fine its my problem. But I trusts them and they lied to me...and this has costs me so much money and trauma. There is no defending this!

In regards to "its your job to read the board" note how they do not hesitate to send memos door to door about stuff like people throwing things to the roof of London Drugs or memos about the fireworks and parking (which in my opinion is a lot less important than bed bugs). And if you are going to tell me that sending a memo too all the tenants is going to create mass panic....well I say better for everyone to be informed on the issue and be aware for a few months so we know exactly what suites have a problem and what is going on!

Submitted by "flippinmad" on 08/19/2008

Thank you! I am glad someone voiced what I have been thinking all along...that perhaps some of the post aren't really from tenants and from landlords.

Especially the ones that blame tenants for not doing their part and being lazy and stupid and etc. I did my part and yes I got rid of them...after hundreds of dollars isn laundry, cleaning and nights of sleep. The issue is that, the building has had them for two years, and the bugs just keep moving from suite to suite when the fumigate a suite. And new tenants are not properly warned before they move in!

Though this is a larger problem in the West End my issue with Brenda and Bruce is that when I moved in I asked about the issue (before I knew about this forum) and they said it was in the past and they don't have a problem currently. Well within two months of being I saw the orkin truck was outside and I saw a mattress in the alley and I suspected...and a few months later they somehow got into my suite (and no I am not someone that buys second hand furniture nor do am I dirty and unclean...I really don't know how it happened...I can't even pinpoint how really). So

I guess that they REALLY thought that after a year of having them..the one week they didn't get a report and I happen to ask them about it....they REALLY meant and REALLY thought it was a problem in the past.

Submitted by "Get a better PCO" on 08/19/2008

"mp" sounds like someone from Maple Leaf properties posing as a tenant. What annoys me the most is the lack of information in our building. There should be a regularly updated list in the lobby that tells everyone how many suites are known to be infested, which floors are affected, and measures currently being taken. I also agree with another poster that ORKIN ARE USELESS! If the landlord is stupid enough to pay for a bad service that won't eradicate the problem, it's up to them. They can waste their own money. But I feel sorry for people who have to put up with this.

Submitted by "mp" on 08/19/2008

Glad to see some of the emotional comments blaming management while the tenant does nothing are now including helpful info and strategy to deal with these bugs. LB, Michael, Hereto help,Doucleanurplace, annonymous all provide helpful hints.
Seems like bedbugs are a Vancouver problem so after two sprayings I vacuumv three times per day, including before going to bed. We should monitor the people setting up street flea market sales. These are illegal, an eyesore and you can bet it is somebody selling infested problems to others. I'm going to write management to suggest a notice to tenants not to purchase any used stuff or bring in anything from the alley and see if the local residents association can help to spread info to our neighbourhood.
I also agree that a huge management problem is residents not reporting the problem. I bet a lot of people that haven't reported the problem probably haven't vacuumed their entire unit or probly don't even own a vacuum.

Submitted by "LB" on 08/19/2008

We are on the 12th floor and had our first experience with bedbugs back in Sep 06. It took 3 fumigations to completely rid us of them over a 6 to 8 month period. The most important thing you can do is properly prepare...be anal!!!...if you do a mediocre job you will never get rid of them as it only takes one to survive and it begins all over.

To prepare you have to, have to wash in hot water all clothes in dressers, bedding, etc and bag properly. Hot water kills any eggs they may have laid. Pull all your furniture away from the walls, take off all your outlet and switch covers (so they can spray inside) and if you have to wait for a fumigation...vacuum your bed, couches..every bloody crack you can fit that nozzle in and it will help as you are potentially eliminating eggs...but then immediately throw out the bag or wash out the cannister in hot water.

After much research and plenty of frustration it is possible to eradicate but you have to be so diligent and GET RID OF STUFF THAT IS INFESTED!!! And another thing...they have nothing to do with cleanliness, some of the fanciest, high-end hotels suffer from this epidemic as tourists bring them in.

Submitted by "michael" on 08/18/2008

Thanks, Heretohelp. You must have posted while I was typing. I think we're pretty much in agreement about what has to be done.

In response to some of the other posters, I haven't been here long enough to know how this place has been run, but I'm not sure the attacks on Bruce and Brenda are entirely fair. Aside from the bedbugs, things seem to be run pretty well. Brenda, Bruce and Glen are all friendly, cooperative and involved.

They didn't bring the bedbugs into the building. And they didn't delay in calling the exterminators. The real dilemma, I think, is that none of their efforts can possibly succeed if the tenants aren't actively involved. We have spoken to people in this building who acknowledged seeing bugs in their suite but didn't report them--because they thought the problem was solved when they killed the few they spotted. Other people think fumigation will take care of it, without little or no effort on their own part. Others don't even know or won't admit that their suites are infested. Even with the most concerted efforts, eradication is a slow, uncertain process.

Blaming the superintendents and the exterminators may make us feel better. But who are they going to be replaced with? For my part, I'm sad to hear that they are leaving. I would be surprised if someone else came in and did a better job.

Submitted by "michael" on 08/18/2008

Here's an update for anyone interested in following this story.

After spotting the first two adult bugs (then a third, and then a juvenile), we went into a complete war footing:

1. Bedding was stripped and laundered, the futon (and even the pillows) were wrapped in heavy plastic, and clothing was cleaned, bagged and deposited in Rubbermaid bins. Someone told us we could get a breathable encasement for the mattress (cost: $60), which would be more comfortable than plastic (and a better long-term solution). We'll look into it.

2. The futon frame was thoroughly dusted with DE, then raised on wooden blocks to reduce areas of contact with the floor. The blocks, too, were then covered with a thick coating of DE, and as a further precaution, the futon frame was protected with a strip of double-sided tape.

The tape (and the few sticky traps we put under the bed) will also give an indication of the level of bug activity.

3. The entire perimeter of the suite was sealed with a solid line of DE--about an inch thick all around--especially under the heater. It's ugly, but tolerable.

4. Surfaces on which we (and the cats) do not walk (closet floor, under the stove, etc) were
liberally dusted with DE.

5. We do not have any upholstered furniture, but everything else (desks, tables, dresser, etc) was sanitized with a 99% alcohol spay and then surrounded with a layer of DE.

6. Finally, letters were delivered to the adjacent apartments, warning the occupants of the situation.

This may seem like overkill, but having read all the reports on this registry, we have no illusions about what it takes to repel this invasion.

From what we have read, people who think bedbugs can be defeated quickly and effortlessly are deluded. Our approach is to win by attrition. Rather than vacuuming compulsively (some suggest vacuuming three or four times a day), we plan to leave the DE where it is (indefinitely). Anything crawling in or out of the walls or up the bed or into the furniture will have to pass through it. Then it's a slow, ugly death.

As for the building's management, even though it was a weekend (and probably not a real 'emergency'), the manager responded to our phone call almost immediately. He was at our door within a few minutes, and first thing Monday morning he called to let us know that pest control would be here for an inspection. It's impossible to say where the bugs came from, but I certainly can't accuse the managers of taking a lackadaisical approach.

PCO was here before 11:00, endorsed our strategy and suggested it might not even be necessary to fumigate.

DE, for those who don't know, is short for DIATOMACEOUS EARTH (AKA silcon dioxide), a fine, talcum-like powder produced from the crushed remains of ancient diatoms. It is not a poison. It is not chemically active. And it remains effective until you vacuum it up. It's composed of microscopic blades of glass that can slice through an insect's waxy shell and dry it out like a salted fish. It took about two days for our prisoners to succumb.

It's available at RONA for about $15 for 200g, under the brand name DIO or Green Earth. But you can get it at Home Depot for about half the price--or on the Internet for pennies. A kilo of the stuff turned out to be plenty for our small apartment.

Submitted by "heretohelp" on 08/18/2008

Michael, I suggest you do the following IMMEDIATLY. Either throw out your mattress or do the following! Grab a mattress cover from either sleep country or parkers. Go here http://www.parkersmattress.com/Product/1143937139400-7649/pC/1139599445945-1068/ after that put DE ALL over your mattress and cover it with that cover. I hope your bed is off the ground if not do it immediately. And put the legs of the bed in jars or cups or what ever and put Vaseline all over the legs, bugs cannot crawl up! ~ I would bag EVERYTHING you have your entire clothing take it to have everything cleaned and put into the dryer. then I would vacuum your unit like 5 or 6 times and im not talking a tiny vacuum I mean vacuum EVERYTHING.. your dresser spray with hot water/lysol CLEAN EVERYTHING the eggs are too small u cannot see them! then I would line your walls with DE and put ducktap to seal the wall to the carpet. this will stop those buggers from coming out! do this on any wall you share with some one. Second then put DE on your door way entrance who care if u step all over it, its non toxic wont do anything except stop those buggers from coming in the front door.

Let me know if you need any additional information. This is easy to get rid of people just need to take the right steps

Submitted by "pissedoff" on 08/18/2008

Maybe this is why Brenda and Bruce got their ass's fired! they are gone anyways at the end of the month!

Submitted by "pissedoff" on 08/18/2008

Some one needs to start posting signs outside on the rental enquiry board that there are 10 bedbug units available. this could maybe get them to wake up? Stop using ORKIN AND GET A REAL FREAKING EXTERMINATION COMPANY U STUPID PEOPLE!

Submitted by "disgusted" on 08/18/2008

The landlords and property manager for this location are clearly unethical.

Submitted by "michael" on 08/16/2008

Sorry, We're on the 6th floor.

Submitted by "flippinmad" on 08/16/2008

Brenda and Bruce are out right lying. They DO NOT spray the adjacent units..I know because I had bugs and they only sprayed MY suite. Sorry to the new tenant and your wife. The only time that happened was when there was an infestation on the third floor...and they sprayed the second and adjeacent suites because Brenda and Bruce lives on the second floor...the rest of the builiding...not so much. Liars.

Submitted by "Notonourflooryet" on 08/16/2008

Can you PLEASE tell us what floor you are on?

Submitted by "michael" on 08/16/2008

We discovered the bedbug registry just after we sent our deposit cheque to the building's management company. We called the superintendent right away and asked whether there was any worry. She said it was overblown--that there were just a few isolated incidents, mostly people who weren't co-operating with the recommended procedures for eradication--and explained that whenever there was a report, they called someone in to spray the affected unit as well as all the adjacent units (including those above and below) and that the situation was well under control.

We were here exactly 2 weeks when my wife showed me the welts covering her arms and torso. I didn't want to believe we had bedbugs, but it didn't take long to find a couple specimens on the mattress, so there's no more doubting it: we have them in a Tupperware bowl to present to the superintendent tomorrow.

We went out and picked up a few canisters of diatomaceous earth and we're keeping our fingers crossed that it will solve the problem. But we can't help wondering if the previous tenant didn't vacate the premises because of the bedbugs and that management lied to us when we inquired about the situation. I don't want to believe it, but I also didn't want to believe my wife's welts were caused by anything more than a mosquito. So much for blind optimism.

Submitted by "sdfsdf" on 08/15/2008

Landlord was active?? what the hell are you talking about!! This problem has been around for almost 2 years now! Notification has been weak at best. I think it's time you people change pest control and move on to some one more experienced!

Submitted by "Maple Leaf Property Management" on 08/12/2008

The Landlord has been aggressively attacking this problem ever since it was brought into our building. Effective July 31, 2008, we feel we have the situation under control and are optimistic we have this problem eliminated all together. In order to accomplish this, we must have the cooperation of the residents to inform us of any new activity promptly, by way of proof of activity – only then can we react. –Property Manager

Submitted by "been there" on 08/11/2008

Addition to my previous post: I bought my diatomaceous earth (DE) at Rona in the pest-control section under the brand name DIO in a plastic cylindrical container. It was about $14 I think. There was a cheaper one but the DIO had a higher concentration of DE. Most garden centres should carry DE as it's very commonly used to kill garden pests due to its zero toxicity to plants and humans. I bought two containers and used them both in treating our 3-bedroom apartment (I put down thick, visible lines along every wall especially in the bedrooms). We did have spraying first including our beds and sofas, then vacuumed thoroughly a few days later as advised by the pest-control company, then put down the DE along the bottom of every wall, in our bed frame before replacing the mattress, and in our sofas. I later found a few dead bugs in the lines of DE we put down, so I know that it works. Four months later we have vacuumed it up, and so far, so good.... Best wishes to everyone here as it sounds like life in your building has been a nightmare.

Submitted by "Kirk D" on 08/01/2008

doyoucleanurplace

Yes, I bagged all clothing, threw out any rugs or equipment that would be hard to clean, and assisted the Orkin guy as much as I could. Like I said, I've only had 2 since but they may have been on their way to the bedbug afterlife.

It was just a huge inconvenience but again, its the west end and its going to happen. Noone is to blame except for the bloke who had them for who knows how long and didnt report it.

And for annoyedbyexagerration, theres a wack of spots on that map but just think about how many tenants in Vancouver that don't have the internet or any knowledge about this site. CTV recently did a story on the infestation of bedbugs in Vancouver. 1225 Cardero is just a drop in the bucket.

Management has been very good about dealing with the infestation however the higher authority at maple leaf management could have acted faster to inform all tenants. After all, how many people in this building take their old furniture to the basement only to have another tenant take it back to thei suite.

Good on whoever created this site.

Submitted by "whats-your-point???" on 08/01/2008

annoyedbyexagerration - are you blind? face the facts. look at the at all the red dots on the map. over 70 reports near this address. your building might not have them yet (and i hope never will) but it's not like you're "safe".

Submitted by "Anonymous" on 08/01/2008

You can order it online. It costs about $12 for 5 lbs: http://www.bulkfoods.com/pets.asp (scroll down the page)

Submitted by "Freaking out" on 07/31/2008

Dear DE, I called the Rona people and they say they don't carry it. Is there another name?

Submitted by "DE" on 07/31/2008

Try Rona or any Gardening store...make sure you get the grade that is human and pet safe.

Submitted by "Freaking out" on 07/31/2008

Where can I buy DE Diatomaceous Earth!! Vancouver area?? and is it prophylactic? someone

Submitted by "annoyedbyexagerration" on 07/31/2008

As an aside, I live in the west end, near 1225 cardero, and my building has never had bed bugs.
Buildings without them do exist.

Submitted by "Arman" on 07/29/2008

Kirk, I've also thought of moving out but there's no guarantee that new place won't have the same problem... i'm on the 7th floor and I've had the 2nd fumigation on 25th July. I think my apartment is now clear because I haven't been getting bitten for at least a week. Here's what I think helped me the most. I sprinkled DE along all the walls and furniture in my apartment. I threw away lots of old stuff I rarely used.. threw away my bed and bought a new one with a metal frame. I washed all my clothes and put them in sealed bags outside the bedroom.. put a vinyl cover around my mattress and taped over the zipper (I'll replace the mattress with a new one once I know for sure the problem is gone). I sprayed the furniture and carpets with neem oil mixed with water (acts as repellent)... I think DE helped the most though.

Submitted by "doyoucleanurplace?" on 07/29/2008

Kirk,,, have you been doing prep work at all???

Are you bagging up your clothes?

Are you packing EVERYTHING up and moving it out of the bed room?

Have you put a matress cover on your bed?

What are you doing as your prep work? Bed bugs require a HUG amount of prep work... often days.. i suggest you start taking it seriously and stop wasting managements time!!! good luck finding another place in the west end that doesnt have bed bugs..

Submitted by "needtoknow" on 07/29/2008

Kirk, when did this happen to you? When did it spread on the 3rd floor?

Submitted by "Kirk Drive" on 07/29/2008

I live on the 3rd floor and I can tell you that the Dude who lived in #308 had the massive infestation. But it wasn't noticed until he moved out and some poor guy moved in. Then they started spreading. I live down the hall on the other side and had never seen a bedbug. It wasn't until after the 1st fumigation that they started spreading throughout the floor.

I set several traps and left for a week only to come back and find an army of those critters stuck on the stickypads. Bruce and Brenda assured me the problem would go away after the second spraying but nooooo. Found 2 more since!!

Seriously looking at other places to move and I'm not bringing one piece of furniture with me.

1225 Cardero is turning into a 1225 downtown east side address.

Submitted by "NotOnABedBugFloor...Yet" on 07/28/2008

Can those of you posting please make an effort to ALWAYS post what floor you live on so that the rest of us have an idea as to the migrating patterns of these bugs? Thnkskbai.

Submitted by "Livinginhell" on 07/28/2008

After the second fumigation, bedbugs are still evident in my apartment...damn! Bought some DE...hope it works....but to be honest, I don't think the fumigation is enough??? By the way, why are the elevators are so smelly & dirty? They never clean it?

Submitted by "been there" on 07/24/2008

Hi there. I don't live at this address but live in the neighborhood and have dealt with the suffering and labour from bedbugs. I did a ton of research when dealing with the problem, and I'm shocked that so many people here think you need to throw out your furniture(!) and vacuum 3x per day. Plenty of pest-control companies will spray your bed and sofas. You still need to vacuum thoroughly a few days later. Or, you can eliminate bedbugs without any pest control, by vacuuming thoroughly (every crack and crevice of mattress, wall, sofa) and then putting down diatomaceous earth (DE). Put along your walls (especially the wall your bed is against), around your bed legs and thoroughly dust any wooden areas/bed frames. Diatomaceous earth is a physical insecticide - it penetrates the waxy exoskeleton of insects and they die of dehydration. You can find it at any Rona or garden centre. It is completely safe for animals and people- they even feed it to livestock - but you should wear a mask when applying so you don't inhale it. I inhaled it a bit, though (and I have asthma) and it didn't bother me as much as the spray the pest-control company used. Our sofas have lots of crevices, so we filled them with DE and left sheets over them for a few months. It has been 4 months now and no new bedbugs or bites.

Submitted by "Anonymous" on 07/22/2008

I have lived here (4th floor) for a year and agree with howcomeursostupid.
Orkin man doesn't treat unit furniture because Orkin does not want to get sued for water damage or staining on furniture. Orkin guy is very helpful and will advise or sell you matress enclosure and examines very thoroughly your desk, chairs, couch. He will recommend if infested you get rid of furniture. Sounds like reasonable advice to me. Why would anybody knowingly sit on an infested chair or couch that hey have been told to get rid of and then complain about bites and blame management.
The management can spray all they want but unless tenants vacuum thoroughly twice per day for a few weeks Orkin has to start all over.
With cooperation from tenants and spraying frm management the problem will go away. Be patient, cooperate with Orkin and don't expect the problem to go away unless the tenant is prepared to cooperate with daily vacuuming and throwing out infested furniture and clothing.
Anybody buying used stuff from the illegal garage sales around here is only buying infested belongings somebody is unleading on purchaser. The garage sale infested stuff is brought into our building. I'd kick out anbody that brings in garage sale items as everybody knows this is a major source of spreading the west end infestation and giving the bugs a new home and new hiding places to grow their family.
Stop complaining and start vacuuming.

Submitted by "Howcomeursostupid?" on 07/22/2008

Lol you people are so funny, you expect the orkin man to treat your matress when your filthy ass dragged it into the building? Stop being such slobs and we wouldnt have this problem you filthy animals!!!

Last time i check pest control doesnt mean laundry service you freaking fools! i just had my unit treated and its called being prepared...Nope i didnt have 1 single bed bug...why because i dont bring shit from outside, i dont shop at used stores, and im not a slob like 90% of you people in 1225 cardero! Stop rat bagging on management because i think they have done enough to notify everyone about these bed bugs.

I have been here for just 1 year and seen letters posted outside 3 times. Do you expect them to knock at your door? Jesus christ people how old are you? grow a freaking brain. It's your fault the bedbugs are in your unit to begin with, its your fault they are not killing them properly!!

It's called doing what needs to be done and getting it done. Stop your bitching cause there are 10000 other places in the west end that have bedbugs... good luck finding a place that doesnt!

Submitted by "pissedatmanagement" on 07/21/2008

Ya I am glad for this registry and hope no one rents at 1225 Cardero. That letter is ridiculous...what are we supposed to do? Shut up and not tell anyone about the problem in the building?

Its on the 3,4,5,7,10,11 floor I think from all the post and one random higher floor. Its not an isolated incident where you shouldn't make a big deal. It is a huge deal!

Submitted by "killthebuggars" on 07/19/2008

Txxt of a letter from Maple Leaf Properties to all tenants:
This letter is beind distributed to serve as an educational purpose. Unfortunately, the entire West End of Vancouver is plagued by an outbreak of Bed Bugs, and regretfully, Regency Park is affected as well. Please understand that the presence of this insect does not indicate "uncleanliness" at all! The landlord is endevoring to control and ultimately eliminate the outbreak as this problem was nonexistent until someone brought it to our building and now our only plan of attack is to rely on 2 factors:
Advice, direction and treatment from our Pest Control Contractor.
information and cooperation from our residents. I cannot reiterate enough - information, information, information. .... I have since learned of a website where residents enter comments and opinions, naming buildings with the problem.....

Hello Houston, we have a problem....

The numbers of the suites treated were not listed. Some unsuspecting new tenants might not rent here.....

Submitted by "Anonymous" on 07/15/2008

Turns out we've had this problem in the building for OVER A YEAR but the management kept it quiet instead of informing the tenants. Now we have to deal with this big ugly mess. Definitely time to move on.


--- Sep 28 2007:

"My building (Cardero & Davie, also West End) is contaminated with bed bugs for over a year now and when the Orkin guy comes says that will not treat furniture nor mattress, he said just put everything in the trash, so How this problem will end if he refuses to do part of his job and promotes to relocate the bed bugs?
In my opinion unprofessional people like him are part of the problem, but the worst part is that when I call Orkin to ask why my furniture nor mattress will be treated they said that the guy should treat everything but if he doesn't want to they can't make him, and yeah, that sounds like BS.
The Orkin guy should have a suit here so that would be cheaper than coming constantly.
In this building not just the apartments have bed bugs but also the storage space in the basement that was never treated so each time that somewhere gets anything from there the problem is back, but hey! the land lord can't spend that much! Jerks."

--- Source: http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/Bed-BUGS-t72406.html (go to page 6)

Submitted by "paranoid" on 07/15/2008

So I'm not understanding how if they're a spray grid why am I not getting any notices? I'm on the 11th and right now I found one and freaking out. I'm exhausted and ppl at work think I'm dirty and such. Seriously considering breaking my lease for this and move to richmond. *sighs*

Submitted by "Anonymous" on 07/14/2008

Heard through the grape vine that there is a suite on the 3rd floor that is so badly infested that they are gutting the entire place and they had to evict the tenant because he was not doing anything to get rid of them. Apparenly the place is crawling with them...and they are just out and about hanging out.

Submitted by "WTF?!" on 07/14/2008

ew got bites and found one on the bed frame. Lease has been up and paying month to month so I am out ASAP. Got treated with two sprays. Still paranoid...also paranoid about bringing them back into apartment from common areas. The gym is being used to house cats from units being sprayed. WTF?! Are the cats clean and free of bugs? What about there litter boxes or whatever they are being transported in?! Too freakky!!! I am out! This is dumb the problem is obviously NOT going away.

Submitted by "Anonymous" on 07/12/2008

Several apartments have been fumigated today, but not entire apartments - only bedrooms! It's very hard to get rid off bedbugs, so this this half-baked treatment is unlikely to make much difference.

Submitted by "bed bugs are so gross" on 07/12/2008

I have just been fumigated recently. However, I have found a couple walking around. Hopefully they will all disappear on the second fumigation. I feel so itchy and disgusting...they are so gross. By the way, you can buy a cover for your mattress that has a locked in zipper...this will keep the bugs in (if you don't want to get rid of your mattress after having a nest???) or out...it works better than a plastic cover...they sell them at sleep'n'country or any other store. I just wonder how this happened???

Submitted by "Anonymous" on 07/09/2008

Talked to my neighbur on 7 who I saw moving out and saw trashbuster guys taking away couches and furniture. Looks like the unit has bed bugs but has been sprayed only after being in the bachelor for a few months.

Does not look like this situation is under control in the building judging from all the posts!

Should have known when I move in there was a reason there is always something avaliable to rent in the building in Vancouver when vacancy rates are so low. I think I have seen them showing the suite to others too...not sure if they are telling people that the unit has a problem. I am itchy just thinking aobut it...hopefully it has been resolved and does not spread to my suite.

Submitted by "Anonymous" on 07/07/2008

There are also bedbugs on the 4th floor. It has been like this for about 3 weeks and no fumigation yet.

Submitted by "still itchy on 5th" on 06/27/2008

Have been told by landlord that despite having proof of bedbugs (2 found to date), have to wait two weeks to be sprayed. I guess they have a contract with a pest control company, and two weeks is the soonest they can come out. This seems ridiculous because I just get to hang out and watch as these bugs continue to disrupt my sleep, paranoia sets in and they multiply. It bothers me that there is no information provided to tenants about this issue. Apparently it\'s \"common sense\" if you have bites that you should know they\'re bed bugs. i\'d never heard of bed bugs before moving here. I thought they were just part of that rhyme. I find it unsettling that they are fumigating in the building and people don\'t know that it\'s happening, and don\'t know what precautions to take or signs to look for. Instead, people\'s stuff is getting ruined and their lives are being seriously distrupted because of withholding information and I think it\'s very unethical.

Submitted by "Anonymous" on 06/27/2008

Also have issues. My suite has been sprayed. I found a lone bug...but management was pretty good about treating it really quickly. Looks like its spreading! Been having bites without knowing what it was until I caught the damn thing. Yikes! Creepy! Waiting for second spray...hopefully they go away!

Submitted by "Anonymous" on 06/26/2008

One suite in this building has been treated NINE times for bedbugs, as of March 2008. This suite is on a higher floor, the tenants just keep bringing them back into the building or are not throwing out furniture when recommended. The 3rd floor is currently infested and is being treated. Apparently there is a "nest" in one of the suites on this floor.

Submitted by "itchy" on 06/25/2008

Found a bedbug in my 5th floor apartment today (June 24, 2008). I was suspicious, had bites on my arms. I put traps out, despite being told by a Pest Control person that the traps often don't work, especially if you only have a few bugs. Today when removing the sheets from the bed to wash them and vaccuum the mattress, I found one lonely bug right on the frame of the bed, in the late afternoon. They are bigger than I thought - I thought all the times I'd looked for them I just wasn't seeing them because they're so small, but they're actually quite noticeable. Am quite frustrated. And concerned by how many of these posts are popping up all of a sudden here.

Submitted by "Anonymous" on 06/25/2008

Bedbugs in the 10th floor of the building... Looks like they\'re spreading quickly.

Submitted by "Arman" on 06/24/2008

There're bedbugs on the 7th floor of the building. I started getting bitten couple of weeks ago. When I spoke to the building manager, I was told that there are several units in the building infested with bedbugs. They can spread easily by clinging onto people clothes or travel from unit to unit.

In our building, you need to provide evidence of an infestation if you want to get your apartment treated by a pest control company. This means you'll have to catch couple of bedbugs and bring them to the building manager. This, or you pay for treatment out of your own pocket.

Submitted by "Anonymous" on 06/16/2008

Currently bedbugs on the 3rd floor (June 2008)
On the side of the building facing Cardero Street, but not sure which suite.
Surrounding suites are being fumigated, even on floor below.

Submitted by "Slip" on 02/21/2008

!806 infested with bed bugs in Jan. Had to toos a 2,500 California King. Furmigated twice, still noticing live bugs but being told they are sterile and cannot lay anymore eggs